Monday, November 27, 2006

Special Blog Post:
In the Crossfire, The Fat Lady Sings

This is a rather long, tortuous recap of a fiasco, a blogger's nightmare, if you will. For the most part, the exposition that follows is from my perspective, and that is to the purpose of giving readers some sense of how I saw this story connecting both to larger and to personal issues. Perhaps if I had focused more on the problem at hand and less on the "big picture" and on the petty, personal sidestreams, I could have been more productive in keeping the trajectory of what happened from reaching such proportions as it did. One way or the other, the whirlwind has abated somewhat, at least for the time being.

The Fat Lady Sings published an article entitled, "The Problem with Lou Dobbs" on her blog. The post set forth her difficulty in assessing Mr. Dobbs, the anchor and managing editor of "Lou Dobbs Tonight" on CNN. Mr. Dobbs, who describes himself as a "populist," offers both liberals and conservatives positions to like and dislike. The Fat Lady Sings expressed the rather common frustration that, in some matters, his rants resonate with the progressive spirit; but at other times, his thinking is disturbingly close to a kind of conservatism that is anathema to progressivism.

As a particular example, one The Fat Lady Sings singled out, Mr. Dobbs is an advocate of all manner of anti-immigration policies and actions. He has gone so far as to feature the self-style, so-called "Minutemen," those self-appointed, private vigilantes patrolling the borders of the Southwest, supposedly "helping" legitimate border patrol authorities stem the tide of illegal immigration from Mexico and countries farther south. Dobbs even put the founder of the Minutemen, Jim Gilchrist, on his show, not bothering to mention that Mr. Gilchrist had gone to the defense of white supremacists in dismissing allegations that such racists not only shared his views about immigration, but that some had in fact become members of the Minutemen.

Before proceeding to the next phase of the Land of Bad Weirdness through which The Fat Lady Sings has just journeyed, I must take this opportunity to state in no uncertain terms that Lou Dobbs presents me with no conundrum at all. His advocacy for meat-and-potatoes issues of the so-called "middle class," his tirades against George W. Bush, and his other apparently quite liberal stances do not fool me for a minute. The man is a classic fascist, and I use that term without reservation. He is cut from the same cloth as the fascists, particular Adolf Hitler, of early-20th Century Europe. His, in point of fact, is the very siren song that Karl Marx called out in "The Manifesto of the Communist Party": the cry to the middle, the bourgeois, if you will, that their issues are his issues, all the while drawing them into the trap of classist separation. This is a subtler, nicey-nice version of the same gambit the Republican Party has played over and over again through the years: cutting taxes for the "middle class," ending the "marriage penalty" tax, getting rid of welfare for those lazy people who are obviously of a lower class, keeping "good" jobs here at home, asymmetrically punishing the habits and addictions of the low-class slobs, getting tough on the crimes that are obviously committed in disproportionate numbers by those lower class people. The astute crypto-fascist of the modern age never once has to use a racial slur, never once has to actually call out the poor as lessers, and never once has to pull out the bluntly hateful speech. It's all about "middle class" values, it's all about "neighborhood schools," it's all about "welfare cheats," it's all about honest, hard-working "Americans" and "their" jobs. It's a game that works way too often; and that game is once again sweeping across Europe, as nativist, anti-immigration, nationalistic parties are rising up from the local councils to the provincial tables, and finally to the national stage, where their carefully crafted hide-and-seek of semantics allows the mainstream news media little room to make an excoriating judgment call, even though everyone knows very well this is at once both nothing more and nothing less than the old-fashioned teeth of Fascism (and note the capitalization at this point in usage), barely covered by the political grin of "I-care-most-about-the-middle-class."

Now, having gotten that out of my system—and cautioning readers that it was to a purpose I shall complete below—let us proceed with the saga of The Fat Lady Sings. The part of her article where she chewed out Dobbs got noticed by a group on the other side of midnight: Aztlán, a sort of catch-all name for a group of which hardly anyone in the reading audience here has ever even heard, despite the fact that this is more than just a group: it is in reality a rapidly growing movement in the southwestern United States, complete with a more-or-less intellectual wing, the part to which I loosely refer here as "Aztlán," and what looks and sounds for all the world like a nascent provisional wing, called Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or MEChA, for short. According to the MEChA "constitution," the group is dedicated to "liberating" Aztlán, a mythical nation that includes Arizona, Colorado, California, New Mexico, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Oregon and some of Washington. The MEChA fascination with all things anti-American extends from Chavez and Castro on through to the Ba'athists and the Taliban. In their literature and their constitution, the "Machistas" repeatedly refer to themselves as La Raza, which means "The Race."

You might be thinking to yourself, "Oh, how cute! A little band of junior Che Guevara people!" Try again. They have clubs in many, many high schools throughout the Southwest, as well as on college campuses; the influence of the overlying, political organization has led to some school books that describe the so-called Aztlán as if it were a real thing. Steeped in myth presented as reality, something they share with Christian fundamentalists, inspiration teeters perilously on the edge of prophesy, and that feeds the seedlings of purpose being focused through the lens of destiny. Great stuff for movies, but a little tricky as a conversation starter at the town council meeting in Heartland America.

Are these people dangerous? It is easy to start thinking about this movement as some pre-pubescent ETA (the Basque Separatist organization) or perhaps a Little League version of the Irish Republican Army (with the Minutemen playing the role of the Ulster Defense Association knee-cappers). Some people consider MEChA a genuine threat, and that is perhaps an overreaction. However, whether it be a handful of pot-bellied White men hanging out in a musty meeting hall giving Heil Hitler salutes or a group of high school kids being indoctrinated about their destiny to take over eight states of the U.S., any collection of people whose members refer to themselves as "The Race" is more than a little disconcerting to those who prefer to be exposed to a little less machismo in their daily diet of expressive creativity.

But that's America of the 21st Century for you: polarized and getting more so, all while we now sit anxiously waiting for the Democratic majority in Congress to do something to make everything a little better.

The folks publishing articles at the Aztlán Website saw fit to think that The Fat Lady Sings was sympathetic to their cause. Well, she isn't. Go to that Aztlán site, and you'll find anti-Semitism veritably dripping out of articles. We're not talking anti-Zionism, here, something I myself would gladly take as a label when that delicate political expression of destiny takes the turn around the ugly corner onto the streets of violence that have guided Zionist solutions to problems faced by Israel and by Judaism in the modern world. No, Aztlán people don't have a problem with Zionism per se; their beef is with Jews.

The Fat Lady Sings found out her article criticizing Lou Dobbs was used as a referential link in an article at the Aztlán Website. The poor woman was mortified. As soon as she found out, she fired off an e-mail message to me asking what the Aztlán was all about. At the time, I was in the midst of an impressive run of people and pets close to me dying, and my response to her, though long-winded, was short on advice other than something to the effect that she needed to ignore the situation and not let it bother her.

That advice was based upon the general rule I have that it's best to walk around even a small nest of hornets as long as all they're doing is calling your mom bad names. As it turned out, though, that advice had a downside.

Enter a gentleman who runs a blog called The AmBoy Times, a Right-wing Website with a distinctively anti-immigration smell all around it. "Kevin"—the American Boy, himself—was on a rant about Aztlán, taking righteous umbrage with a side of indignation about the anti-Semitism of La Raza, and he decided to throw in the link to The Fat Lady Sings article that the Aztlán site had used! In other words, The AmBoy Times was associating The Fat Lady Sings with Aztlán, despite the fact that she wanted nothing to do with them or their politics, particularly the anti-Semitic stuff.

The Fat Lady Sings sent me a follow-up e-mail telling me about this latest round of nonsense, so this time I took the opportunity to get her up to speed on Aztlán, MEChA, and "La Raza." I vowed that I would publish an article that would appear across all of the blogs in The Dark Wraith Publishing network, and that I would ensure that news and blog aggregators got pinged until they couldn't hear their own choking on the flood I would make to ensure that all of these false associations were repudiated.

In her e-mail message to me, she indicated that she'd already gone over to the AmBoy site and put up a comment on his post. I high-tailed it over there, myself. Sure enough, she'd laid out a no-two-ways-about-it repudiation of any association whatsoever with Aztlán. I jumped right on the bandwagon and posted a comment of my own, one of my classic, long-winded, over-wrought, grammatically contorted affairs, complete with my famous run-on sentences and odd arrangements of predicate components. I signed it,

Dark Wraith
Publisher and Administrator
The Dark Wraith Forums
Big Brass Blog
The UnCapitalist Journal

just to emphasize the point that I have a much bigger server (with thicker bandwidth, no less) than AmBoy does.

Within a few hours, once AmBoy had wandered onto his own blog and seen these comments from The Fat Lady Sings and me, he deleted them.

That's right: the fellow deleted the comments we'd made.

Okay, in all fairness, AmBoy most likely had no idea, as others who know me do, that I can turn an annoying person's computer into a terrarium. I have to make this assumption with respect to AmBoy with the same degree of caring sentimentality I do for trolls like the couple of them who slithered into the comments thread over at fatcat politics, where a recent article of mine was republished by the fatcat.

The deletion of those comments simply mortified The Fat Lady Sings. How is one supposed to defend herself if those who have falsely accused her of association with Aztlán deliberately delete her clear denial of association?

In my last e-mail message to her yesterday, I told her I would publish an unwavering statement in her defense, and that I would mince no words about either AmBoy and his Minutemen whackos or Aztlán and its MEChA whackos. I asked her to get my back by publishing her own post on the whole fiasco after I had published mine.

As events would have it, she posted hers first. Not only did she put up a clear and compelling statement, but she also made no bones about the depth of her frustration with all that was happening.

Well, wouldn't you know it: Kevin, himself, of The AmBoy Times came on board and published a comment to her article. He claimed that he deleted her comment and mine on his article because he thought they were "spam."

Yeah. Right. Sure. "Spam," huh? My blithering, over-wrought, grammatically contorted writing has been called a lot of things, but "spam"? Well, I never!

Aside from that aside, "Kevin" was kind enough to apologize for inappropriately associating The Fat Lady Sings with Aztlán, and he assured her that he had removed the link to her original post about Dobbs from his article attacking Aztlán. The Fat Lady Sings is not quite satisfied with that. She responded to him by stating her preference that he delete the post entirely and then republish it (in the revised form without the link to her article, of course), so the original permalink is broken. Kevin replied that he isn't willing to go that far, and that's where the whole story stands as of the time of publication of this article of mine.

Complicated, isn't it? The good news is two-fold. First, The Fat Lady Sings will find that her defense of herself in the article she just published will win the day; and eventually, she'll be left alone both by the Minutemen and their apologists and by the "The Race" of Aztlán. Second, this whole fiasco has not only given me the opportunity to once again stop taking the quiet road against people who thrive on their opponents' silence, but it has ultimately, and herewith, afforded me the opportunity to close with a heavy-duty, if rather brief by my standards, hard-core lecture; and it goes like this:

Folks, the Minutemen are a face of Right-wing hate. Lou Dobbs is another face of it. It is wolf packs and their hyena brethren that scour the world looking for targets, "others," that they can push and shove, hurt and brutalize, hate and marginalize.

Sooner or later, those "others" find leaders who tell them they don't have to live and die on their knees, that in their unity, in their strength of hope in themselves, they can stand up and shove back. Sometimes, they shove back hard, and that gives the wolves all the excuse they need, and then some, to turn really ugly, and far worse, to cry like little babies to the mainstream of usually detached people in the society and bawl, "See? See?! This is what those others do! This is what we're dealing with!"

Soon thereafter, all Hell breaks loose: we get dumb-ass vigilantes turning into genuine thugs on one side of the equation of destruction, and we get radicals with fanatical vision turning into "terrorists" with prophetic excuses on the other side. The masses run to the teat of the government, which almost inevitably brings down a fist of repression, occasionally a Left fist but more frequently a Right one.

People start getting hurt. Buildings get blown up. People get killed. Men and women go to prison. Sooner or later, some if not most of those men and women being hauled off are innocent of the crimes with which they are charged. "Populism" replaces reason, and the government becomes infused of those literally champing at the bit to go to excess, even as the society goes to Hell. The great, bulging "middle" ebbs and flows, but every ebb is further into the abyss of repression.

The Fat Lady Sings was briefly swept into the whirlpool that is our world of this new century. She was horrified that her words became the pawn to be at once vaunted and damned by those with whom she wants no association. She made her position clear, and the parties to the war of the worlds will now move on.

But they'll be back. Not for her, mind you, but for all of us.

Fear that time more than anything else; then stand up to your fear that you will have the strength to decline the invitation to theirs.



The Dark Wraith has had his say.

<< 12 Comments Total
 The Fat Lady Sings blogged...

Thank you, my dear. I certainly appreciate the support. You know - I received two rather pressing emails from 'Kevin' of The Amboy Times. He wanted all reference to his complicity in this removed from my article. I posted an addendum and left it at that. What he cannot do is un-ring the bell. Frankly - I didn't care what his politics were. You don't go around sullying someone’s reputation without cause. I have never, ever ‘trolled' anyone's site. To do so would be against my principals. I have, on the occasional conservative blog, attempted to have substantive discussions (there are a couple of middle of the roaders where this is possible) - but I never have nor will I ever 'spam' anyone's site. I don’t know how in the world ‘Kevin’ could have gotten that impression from my impassioned plea not to be included as part and parcel of Aztlan’s blatant anti-Semitism. And no - I didn’t buy his 'spam' act either. I believe the man was being disingenuous in claiming that. He deleted our comments for political reasons – because you and I are part of the progressive community. The only comments I have ever deleted from my site were advertisements, outright vulgarity or actual threats of violence towards me or my commenter’s. Everything else stands as posted. It most likely amused this man to stick it to people he saw through Michael Savage glasses. He even made a point about his politics being different than mine; as if that had any bearing on the truth.

I suppose I shouldn’t belabor it. I no longer have any quarrel with The Amboy Times. As long as he doesn’t re-visit the situation, I won’t either. I do however have a great deal to say about this Aztlan site. I know, I know – I should let it lie. I don’t plan on attacking them directly. But I am planning on removing the link to my article on Lou Dobbs and inserting it into a separate, differently titled post. If Aztlan’s serious in attaching my work – they will have to search through DKos or Booman to find it; I will not make it easy for them. So there we have it. Thank you again, my dear. I truly appreciate all of your help in this matter. I was really considering quitting blogging over this. Being labeled a bigot is just about the worst thing I could imagine happening to me. I am hoping this entire situation disappears into the ether – forever lost and forgotten. Amen.

Tue Nov 28, 01:24:29 AM EST  
 father tyme blogged...

DW,
There is an even darker theme to the unrest cropping up around the country and the world. I might even say sinister. While extremist organizations have existed for centuries, they have become emboldened these last few years, many to the point of open aggression.
That these former loose organizations existed in basements and garages has been known to many. Most of their existence though has been below the surface, actually un-organized, reminiscent of toga partied fraternities. Now however, there seems to be a general swelling of their hubris. This can’t be by chance because of the times. Something has to be at work fomenting this dissent of things “normal”.
Is it a coincidence that we have seen much of this unrest since the NeoCons took over? It would seem that these organizations could not have gained notoriety on their own, nor provided their own support. Someone or some group must be at the base of this restlessness.
There are Neo-Nazis that have existed for 60 rather dormant years all of a sudden becoming much more vocal. The same holds true for lesser known radical groups.
There MUST be an underlying force actively instigating this. Probability and statistics aside, it’s difficult to believe that all of this unrest could come to fruition spontaneously even had it been instigated by conditions created over the last few years.
It seems probable that someone or some group is responsible for the world affairs today, irrespective of nationality, doubtless for their own benefit.
People can cry conspiracy theory all they want but too many situations warrant deeper investigation. There are just too many coincidences.
But it seems no coincidence that the current world situation intensified in conjunction with the NeoCons rise to power. The dividing of the people of the United States had to be their initial agenda. 9/11 was the Pearl Harbor they so desperately wanted. Had it not happened, Bush’s reign would have been like his fathers: one term, for people would have seen his incompetence. For that reason alone, 9/11 had to have been a contrived event by those same members of the New World Order. To put us at each other’s throats was planned regardless of one of Bush’s first lies; “I’m a uniter, not a divider.”
Does anyone think that any of this administration’s and more likely, Cheney’s vision of the future could have been achieved without first creating the distrust and hatred and divisiveness that has become so common in America today?
We’ve all heard of those secret societies that thirst after world power and domination; the Bildebergers, Illuminati, Skull and Bones and others. But to deny that one main group with the financial means is not behind this worldwide upheaval would be to ignore what’s in front of us.
The question is, “CAN we do anything about it this late?” or must we really “love big brother?”

Tue Nov 28, 09:23:03 AM EST  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Afternoon Dark Wraith

...to deny that one main group with the financial means is not behind this worldwide upheaval would be to ignore what’s in front of us.
The question is, “CAN we do anything about it this late?” or must we really “love big brother?”


The big brother theme is reinforced by the Bushco presnitdential library plans to rewrite history.
That's gonna be one building in desperate need of an explosion. (not)

For the last few months I've been looking at what's happening around the country. It might be just me, but I feel an escalation of the types of violence that have hate and a total dehumanization of the victim at the root. IE: rapes, murders, and violent robberies seem to be escalating. Here in CT (!) there were violent robberies outside the big box stores during the recent Playstation fiasco. Armed robberies of a freakin' TOY fer crumb sakes!

I sound like my Mom in the seventies "What IS the world coming to anyway?"

Tue Nov 28, 12:23:41 PM EST  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

Jeeez, Wraith, thanks for elucidating some of what it was that used to bother me about Dobbs back when I watched TV (other than the fact that I kept asking myself, "What's somebody with such an almost reasonable sounding philosophy doing on CNN?").

Wanna conteplate something worse? Now the last thing we want to do is add traffic to the site, but you might want to check out the Dobbs 4 President website, which I first tripped over in the comments at the .
At first, I thought it might be a joke, but...

Tue Nov 28, 03:57:00 PM EST  
 StealthBadger blogged...

There's no wonder at all that the fringes of our society have gotten scarier, and this is coming from someone who's within hailing distance of the margins himself...

First, we have an entire set of media empires predicated on the idea that froth trumps fact, highlighted in the Drama of the Clenis. After September 11th, when "everything changed" (just between you and me, it didn't), the twin ideas that "it can't happen over here" and "as it is now, so it has been and so shall it ever be" took a swift kick in the groin.

By uniting these two aforementioned things in the modern political system (yes, both Dems and Reps), fantasy became a "legitimate" tool for interacting with the real world, and everyone's pet Expression of the Id started seeming a whole lot more reasonable.

Oh, and don't forget a dash of "ends justify the means" for flavor. *spit*

My sympathy, TFLS. *hugs* Sounds about as much fun as a Freeper swarm.

Tue Nov 28, 04:41:02 PM EST  
 blackdog blogged...

Good afternoon, Dark Wraith.

The very idea that these issues exist tells me that the breakdown of polite society in this excuse for a nation is nearly complete. Most of us have become what we really want to be, inflated ego morons with an inflated sense of self importance.

Jeez. FLS, you deserve none of this, and know that I support you and the Dark One. Both of you fight the good fight, and in a way, so do I.

Both of you keep up the great work, we need you.

I promise to bite the crap out of the first repuke I see. I've had my shots this year.

Tue Nov 28, 05:22:36 PM EST  
 The Minstrel Boy blogged...

Good Morning Dark Wraith:

People used to cringe at the sight of my gun collection. They used to pooh-pooh my thick adobe walls and personal supplies of water and power. Now, they tend to be more concerned about being on the "let in" list. During the Rodney King riots I was still a near L.A. resident. Casual acquaintences called wanting to "borrow" or buy firearms from me outright. I told them no, but they were welcome to come ride the storm out in the safety of my home. I don't know where my beloved country is headed. I do know that I would rather be left alone to live free on my own little patch of land. (p.s. we even have some nice caves and a couple of abandoned turquoise mines nearby, but they would have to be checked for snakes and lions)

Wed Nov 29, 02:59:13 PM EST  
 Dark Wraith blogged...

Good afternoon, Minstrel Boy.

First question: Are there any of those idiotic homeowner associations I have to join if I buy an abandoned mine out there?

Second question: Do the drapes come with the property?

Third question: Are those lions and snakes claiming some kind of squatters rights stuff that I'll have to fight in court?

Fourth question: Does the real estate agent have brochures?

And finally, what about financing? Do these qualify for FHA or VA or anything like that?


The Dark Wraith needs to go to the home improvements store and check out wallpaper.
[Geez, and I thought wallpapering the rooms in a 150 year-old house was tricky!]

Wed Nov 29, 03:19:29 PM EST  
 roger blogged...

dw----thanks for your take on lou dobbs. i could never watch him long enough to fully catch what there is about him that so rankles.

what an interesting and alarming situation for TFLS. i missed that. gotta go give her some lover and support.

Thu Nov 30, 10:21:43 AM EST  
 SB Gypsy blogged...

Good Morning Dark Wraith

The Dark Wraith needs to go to the home improvements store and check out wallpaper.
[Geez, and I thought wallpapering the rooms in a 150 year-old house was tricky!]

First find out if there's water on that property - in the coming warmer climate, the midwest will become a dust bowl - that is, the part that's not been flooded by the Gulf.

Thu Nov 30, 11:42:07 AM EST  
 Eric A Hopp blogged...

Dark Wraith: What can I say but frickin' incredible! It is just amazing at how a simple reference of Fat Lady's own troubled analysis of Lou Dobbs on this unknown, insignificant blog (What the frack is Aztlán?) could create such hatred and controversy in the right-wingnut sphere. After reading Fat Lady's article, I realize it could have been something that any of us--including myself--could have written.

When I started my own blog Oh Well, I decided to make it a point of referencing only articles from professional and mainstream media sites--CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, ABC News, and such. I've even written a few posts referencing the Moonie Washington Times and Insight on the News--noting that these are conservative papers here. The end result is that if I am referencing an article, it is going to be from a professional organization and not from a blog site. I've adapted this rule slightly to link some blog sites that have posted unusual stories, but even there I will go directly towards their sources and to make sure that the sources are professional news organizations, and I will start my blog at those sources. If I do use a blogsite, I will use one of the larger blogs, such as Media Matters or Think Progress, or even Wikipedia to reference background information, rather than points to my own arguments. And still, everything needs to be linked to professional media sources.

I know this may seem a little redundant, but it is how I learned to reference online sources for political and economic term papers during my continuing student days. What I find disturbing is how both the writers of Aztlán, or even Kevin from the AmBoy Times have both failed to look at Fat Lady's article and ask if this was a reputable reference to back up their own misguided arguments. I certainly would never do so.

I think one major issue that everyone here is dancing over is not just that the fringe groups are getting bolder, or scarier regarding their extremist views, but also that they are willing to take the minor risks of referencing other bloggers views to support their own extremism. They may believe, or know, that the links to these extremist sites may go unchecked by regular bloggers. The risks against these extremists are miniscule, while the payoffs could be great in terms of increased hits and readership to their sites. And even if these extremist sites decide to reference a post from another blog, do you believe that these extremists would go through three or four posts from that blogger to determine that blogger's views? Apparently not.

I fear that as more people discover and start writing blogs, we're going to see more of these problems of referencing other blogsites to support extreme arguments.

Fri Dec 01, 10:54:41 PM EST  
 PeterofLoneTree blogged...

"First find out if there's water on that property - in the coming warmer climate, the midwest will become a dust bowl - that is, the part that's not been flooded by the Gulf." -- SBGypsy

The part not flooded by the Gulf will be flooded when the Arctic icecap melts, flows into Hudson Bay, which will then overflow into the Great Lakes, which will then overflow and create a vast inland sea separating the North American continent into East America and West America.

Mon Dec 04, 06:04:27 PM EST